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Неожиданно, хотсон :) Далеко не лучший мой текст, но он помог мне закрыть мой хотсон-гештальт.

Шерлок/Джон.
Ау, где Шерлоку 15 лет, а Джону за 25. Джон испытывает влечение к Шерлоку, но не может игнорировать возраст Шерлока.


Предупреждение: АУ насчет даты рождения Шерлока (не шестое января).


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2011-06-25 в 18:37 

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Благодарю :) Рада, что угадала с кинком )))

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2011-06-25 в 18:55 

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I think it doesn't make like them less, but makes me wonder if they too have gone mad a little
Who hasn't done that, in the beautiful and crazy Whoniverse? :)

Yes, otherwise none would trust him and he wouldn't be the Doctor :sunny: Or is it the TARDIS that takes him "where he needs to go"? :hmm: :lol:
Well, after 6х04 I think it's TARDIS seeing to him coming in time anywhere ))) Especially considering the fact that he can barely rule the TARDIS who needs 6 pilots at once - and he always does it alone, except for the 4th series final Journey's End.

Well, you really do make me feel like an arch-villain trying to take over the world :-D
Not at all ))) I don't actually think you would harm someone. But the very concept of everyone having same opinions and views disgusts me.

It's actually really amazing how he approaches anything new — with wonder and excitement, not fear, remember this "You're beautiful!"?
Of course, I remember this feature of him, this everlasting love to any kind of living creature :heart: In moments of the kind he's worth every ounce of admiration that a viewer can master.

OK, then I have questions)) :smirk:
Ask anything you like :) I'm done with the newschool and am now watching Torchwood before turning to the oldschool, so feel free to discuss any event from the newschool :)

So it kind of proves my point that the human!Doctor that Rose was left with at the end of season 4 could never really want to settle down
I'm sure he won't be able to make it, too :yes: It doesn't matter how many hearts he has, they would still beat in accord with the rhitm of the universe, not a single human.
They both hope Rose would make the human!Doctor - the child of battle and aggression and anger - more soft and kind, less bitter and harsh. But she will hardly ever do that. If it were not for the regeneration process, she would hardly help the Doctor himself.

And I don't agree with Joan Redfern (forgot it, had to look her name up :plush: ), the Doctor's refusal to turn back into John Smith wasn't a show of cowardice, it was quite the opposite :yes:
Neither do I :) But she has a right to be cross and unfair, yeah.

A-a-a-and these episodes were also based on a book "Human Nature" by Paul Cornell
It's good :) Do you know, if I can download this book from somewhere? I could definitely do with some reading.

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2011-06-26 в 18:57 

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It's good Do you know, if I can download this book from somewhere? I could definitely do with some reading.
www.4shared.com/document/UEu6IXQr/NA38_-_Human_...
PDF, has to work, tell me if doesn't ;-)
I'll get back soon — unfinished business :-D :shv:

2011-06-26 в 21:20 

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Thanks for the link, it's really nice of you :heart: Everything works just fine.

I shall be waiting :)

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2011-06-26 в 22:39 

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Who hasn't done that, in the beautiful and crazy Whoniverse?
Oh, right, everybody's bonkers there :-D :-D And the Doctor is their leader... :alles:

But the very concept of everyone having same opinions and views disgusts me.
*remembers the cybermen and shudders* Yeah, especially when people very different from you prove to be the most interesting :yes:

In moments of the kind he's worth every ounce of admiration that a viewer can master.
"You're twice the man I thought you were" :yes: :sunny: Behind his frequent unwillingness to harm even his enemies there's not cowardice but a great heart(s ( :-D)) :heart:

I'm done with the newschool and am now watching Torchwood before turning to the oldschool
I haven't watched Torchwood, how is it?)) I read something that it wasn't that good at the beginning, but got better and better :rotate: I watched couple episodes of The Sarah Jane Adventures though (The Death of the Doctor featuring the 11th Doctor :-D) and got the opinion that this series are truly children-oriented :rotate: :hmm: The 10th Doctor was there too, in The Sarah Jane's Wedding (if I'm not wrong with the title), but that one I didn't see (though it's supposed to be cool :rotate: ).

If it were not for the regeneration process, she would hardly help the Doctor himself.
That's when she swallowed the time vortex? They were both very lucky then, yes)) And there enters deus ex machina — quite a trade mark of Russel Davies's era, although some call it a miracle :crznope:

Thanks for the link, it's really nice of you
You're welcome, and you did ask so... :shuffle2: :sunny:
Oh, by the way, Mark Gatiss's St Anthony's Fire (a DW novel too) should also be downloadable, you can look it up in the same place :rotate:

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Oh, right, everybody's bonkers there :-D :-D And the Doctor is their leader... :alles:
The king of nutters, isn't he? )))

*remembers the cybermen and shudders*
Well, the Daleks also seemed to have the same motive for their actions - they'd love to destroy everything that isn't Dalek, and that very concept they fondled from the very beginning of their existance, as far as I understood.

I haven't watched Torchwood, how is it?))
Oh, I loved it :) Although Torchwood, unlike Doctor Who, is for grown up audience only; there is sex, blood, undisguised cruelty there.
Russell T. Davies managed to create a new universe, closely related to that one of Doctor Who, but still different, oriented not to the Doctor but to Captain Jack as the main criterion of the atmosphere, if you see what I'm trying to say. I actually loved it, despite the darkness and gloominess (of the last season especially).

I watched couple episodes of The Sarah Jane Adventures though (The Death of the Doctor featuring the 11th Doctor :-D) and got the opinion that this series are truly children-oriented
Well, I shall see it for myself :) I'm watching the oldschool now, the First Doctor. Now that's truly children-oriented ))) Though it becomes more interesting as the time passes, and I learn new things about the Doctor's past from some casual phrases of his.

Oh, by the way, Mark Gatiss's St Anthony's Fire (a DW novel too) should also be downloadable, you can look it up in the same place :rotate:
I'll look for it, thank you for telling me :sunny:

Speaking about the Master...
Oh, this is gorgeous :-D

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The king of nutters, isn't he? )))
Almost his official title :-D

Well, the Daleks also seemed to have the same motive for their actions - they'd love to destroy everything that isn't Dalek, and that very concept they fondled from the very beginning of their existance, as far as I understood.
Yeah, that's the only goal in their lives — to destroy all non-Dalek life forms so the Dalek race should rule over the Universe (also the Sontarans have similar ideas :-D ) :nap:
It's just that I hate the cybermen, and I mean hate, to me they, not the Silence/angels/whatever, are the scariest monsters probably ever :aaa: God, tome everything about them is horrible from their blank, colourless exterior to the very concept of their emptiness, of people being deprived of their personalities, of everything human and alive being wiped out of them — now there's a real incentive to go and hide behind the sofa :yes: :aaa:

Russell T. Davies managed to create a new universe, closely related to that one of Doctor Who, but still different, oriented not to the Doctor but to Captain Jack as the main criterion of the atmosphere, if you see what I'm trying to say. I actually loved it, despite the darkness and gloominess (of the last season especially).
So, no mercy to the alien invaders? :rotate: Hm, "darkness and gloominess" actually sounds quite intriguing :lip: :hmm:

I'm watching the oldschool now, the First Doctor. Now that's truly children-oriented )))
Really?)) I thought it was quite tough even bearing in mind the time it was shot, yes there's no sex/drugs/rock'n'-- (oops, the latter was there, I guess :-D ) but I couldn't shake off the feeling that it was all serious there)) (Or do I picture a children's TV-show as something light and safe? :hmm: I actually grew up watching the X-Files, so it's all quite messed up in my head :mosk: )

Oh, this is gorgeous
Who knows, maybe John Simm was actually inspired by owls while prepareing for the role :alles:

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God, tome everything about them is horrible from their blank, colourless exterior to the very concept of their emptiness, of people being deprived of their personalities, of everything human and alive being wiped out of them — now there's a real incentive to go and hide behind the sofa :yes: :aaa:
Yes, it's pretty scary. But there's a chance to stay human, still. Remember that woman, the head of Torchwood in London who met the Doctor was the one to tell him that they took his TARDIS and were going to hold him since they thought him a threat. She was already turned into a Cyberwoman but she still defended people, she shoot as many Cybermen as she could.

So, no mercy to the alien invaders? :rotate:
No, not like that. I'd rather say, no mercy to the human race revealed as the ugliest and most wonderful of creation at the same time. Although those alien invaders who were really dangerous and wouldn't listen to any reasoning also didn't get away in one piece.

Really?))
I suppose so. It seems serious, yeah, not light and safe, there are deaths and battles and philosophical disagreements, but still - there's little logic in actions and words, villains are not cunning, the fights are too slow even for a children show and even the Daleks are not so dangerous as they are in the newschool. Maybe I'm also influenced by the settings - alien brains with prolonged eyes, obviously made of rags, paper flowers, all humanoid aliens in funny short and stretching costumes - as if different attitude to almost-nudity is a basic feature of a creature from another planet. It's not fair to let it influence me - for the 60s it all was great and unique, but I'm still here, in 2011.
Although it's really fascinating: to see the root of the flower that I've already learned to adore. To see the Doctor say for the first time ever "trust me". To hear for the first time the word TARDIS. It's like touching history itself, black and white and fragile, but still breathing and captivating.

Who knows, maybe John Simm was actually inspired by owls while prepareing for the role :alles:
Well, that would be nice if it were so :-D It's... touching somehow.

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Yes, it's pretty scary. But there's a chance to stay human, still. Remember that woman, the head of Torchwood in London who met the Doctor was the one to tell him that they took his TARDIS and were going to hold him since they thought him a threat. She was already turned into a Cyberwoman but she still defended people, she shoot as many Cybermen as she could.
It's hard to forget :yes: Her will must have been amazingly, unbelievably strong, or maybe (that's what I actually thought while watching the episode) she was very close to being a fanatic, which, IMHO, could explain her resistance as well as her general behaviour))
And also there's a girl who was going to play Martha the next season, but apparently nobody had any idea of it then, so there's a funny moment for us :gigi:

I'd rather say, no mercy to the human race revealed as the ugliest and most wonderful of creation at the same time.
Well, that is serious))) And most certainly not children-oriented, that's a difficult concept even for some (many?) adults ( :hey: ).

Although those alien invaders who were really dangerous and wouldn't listen to any reasoning also didn't get away in one piece.
:hmm: There's one interesting thing about the Doctor — he really needs such people, who would do unpleasant stuff without too many qualms of conscience, because there are things he just can't do (unless he's EXTREMELY pissed which is a rare thing as far as I know).

alien brains with prolonged eyes, obviously made of rags, paper flowers,
"«Doctor Who» began on a junkyard" :yes: :sunny: I'm trying to look past it, such stuff is inevitable :rotate: Though it worked back then, the actors who now are in the show say that it was a real test of their courage to watch "Doctor Who" :D

all humanoid aliens in funny short and stretching costumes - as if different attitude to almost-nudity is a basic feature of a creature from another planet.
Hm :hmm: An interesting thought :hmm: , suppressing of sexuality makes you teach children that almost-nudity is bad, so when you want to sow that the aliens are bad you just-- :-D On the other hand, if the aliens are good into them you put your hope, that one day it all'll be over))) It's either "no-o-o-o, we're not like that" or freedom :rotate: Nah.

It's like touching history itself, black and white and fragile, but still breathing and captivating.
I suppose it is touching history — this show is already a legend :) And here's your chance to feel a bit like the Doctor, i.e. to travel backwards (rightwards-leftwards-wibbly-wobbly :-D ) in time :sunny: And it does look fragile, I think because it's already gone)))

Well, that would be nice if it were so It's... touching somehow.
Oh, he's a professional, he knew that that guy he was going ti play was downright crazy, so he must've gone: "What's the craziest thing in the world? :thnk: Ah! Owls!" :laugh: Or maybe it's just his intuition, which is even greater :sunny:

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she was very close to being a fanatic, which, IMHO, could explain her resistance as well as her general behaviour))
Yes, she was. I strongly disliked her for being a fanatic although it turned out to be for the good thing. Fanatics are most dangerous no matter whose side they are on.

Well, that is serious))) And most certainly not children-oriented, that's a difficult concept even for some (many?) adults ( :hey: )
Yes, I guess, children wouldn't catch up with this. But it's not hard to see, this concept - Torchwood reveals it bright, raw and bleeding, like one's heart still beating is ripped off one's chest. That's a feature of what Russell T. Davies does - he doesn't hide concepts to make the viewer guess and collect the idea from little pieces, he shows it clear, strong and blinding like a lightning bolt.

There's one interesting thing about the Doctor — he really needs such people, who would do unpleasant stuff without too many qualms of conscience
An interesting and sad thing. "That's what you do, Doctor. You take people and turn them into weapons" (c) It makes him suffer almost as much as if he did the unpleasant stuff himself.

Though it worked back then, the actors who now are in the show say that it was a real test of their courage to watch "Doctor Who" :D
Well, it is a test of a kind ))) I decided now to slow down a bit as I calculated: with the same speed I'll finish the oldschool by the middle of August, and this is not possible - to devote to watching as much time as I do now. Besides, I've got a feeling that I gathered enough information to chew for the time being.

It's either "no-o-o-o, we're not like that" or freedom :rotate: Nah.
In "Doctor Who" it's freedom, I reckon. The aliens wearing such costumes are mostly the good ones.

And here's your chance to feel a bit like the Doctor, i.e. to travel backwards (rightwards-leftwards-wibbly-wobbly :-D ) in time :sunny:
It's not as breathtaking as one could think from your words ))) But you're right. Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey, funny :cheek:

Or maybe it's just his intuition, which is even greater :sunny:
He is great, his intuition must be great too :rotate:

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Yes, she was. I strongly disliked her for being a fanatic although it turned out to be for the good thing. Fanatics are most dangerous no matter whose side they are on.
In a way, she was as scary as those cybermen, it was certainly as effective to reason with her as with them :rotate:

Yes, I guess, children wouldn't catch up with this. But it's not hard to see, this concept - Torchwood reveals it bright, raw and bleeding, like one's heart still beating is ripped off one's chest.
Or like realising your parents are real people like everybody else)))

That's a feature of what Russell T. Davies does - he doesn't hide concepts to make the viewer guess and collect the idea from little pieces, he shows it clear, strong and blinding like a lightning bolt.
Oh, that!:-D Somebody once said (on tumblr, perhaps) that RTD is like "Let's keep the plotlines easy and simple so that people can keep up" and Steven Moffat is like "Ah! Let's mindfuck them!" The person was right, I guess :lol: :lol:

An interesting and sad thing. "That's what you do, Doctor. You take people and turn them into weapons" (c) It makes him suffer almost as much as if he did the unpleasant stuff himself.
Yeah, but there are borders he just cannot cross, at least not consciously, and he can't help it — it is admirable, but it makes a lot of people get hurt, and the Doctor just wanted to share his stars with somebody))

In "Doctor Who" it's freedom, I reckon.
May be)) If I'm not mistaken he once had a companion in a bikini :gigi:

It's not as breathtaking as one could think from your words ))) But you're right. Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey, funny
But it is fascinating :sunny: And honestly, I can't possibly remember the order in which I watched the newschool episodes :mosk:

He is great, his intuition must be great too
:yes: :sunny:

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In a way, she was as scary as those cybermen, it was certainly as effective to reason with her as with them :rotate:
Yes, unfortunately so. I was glad to learn that Captain Jack took care of Tochwood himself - it meant that this establishment will never again see the Doctor as a threat and will never keep him as a prisoner.

Or like realising your parents are real people like everybody else)))
Really? Maybe, I didn't think of that :)

Somebody once said (on tumblr, perhaps) that RTD is like "Let's keep the plotlines easy and simple so that people can keep up" and Steven Moffat is like "Ah! Let's mindfuck them!" The person was right, I guess :lol: :lol:
That person was right as hell, I say ))) And to be honest, I prefer RTD-style to that of Moffat. It's like a mouthful of fresh air.

Yeah, but there are borders he just cannot cross, at least not consciously, and he can't help it — it is admirable, but it makes a lot of people get hurt, and the Doctor just wanted to share his stars with somebody))
The price for stars appears to be unbearably high. For the Doctor as well as for his companions.
A single miracle can come to you for free, but if you turn your life into a chain of miracles, be ready to lose everything and more than everything.

If I'm not mistaken he once had a companion in a bikini :gigi:
Did he? Which Doctor was it, I wonder? )))

And honestly, I can't possibly remember the order in which I watched the newschool episodes :mosk:
What do you need to remember the order for?

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Yes, unfortunately so. I was glad to learn that Captain Jack took care of Tochwood himself - it meant that this establishment will never again see the Doctor as a threat and will never keep him as a prisoner.
Well, if Captain Jack is in charge it will never happen, though I bet he'd like to keep to himself Doctor for a while :smirk: :-D

Really? Maybe, I didn't think of that
This thing definitely changes your views on the world, especially when you have to come to terms with it)))

That person was right as hell, I say ))) And to be honest, I prefer RTD-style to that of Moffat. It's like a mouthful of fresh air.
And I think, I like Moffat's desire to play :sunny:

The price for stars appears to be unbearably high. For the Doctor as well as for his companions.
A single miracle can come to you for free, but if you turn your life into a chain of miracles, be ready to lose everything and more than everything.

The price is high, yes, and some cannot "survive" paying it, but some people become stronger, some people find themselves in this journey and all (well, almost all :gigi: ) because of the Doctor :) He did ask Amy Pond in The Big Bang if it was worth it, and she said, "Shut up! Of course, it was." :sunny:

Did he? Which Doctor was it, I wonder? )))
Perhaps, someone of the last ones of the oldschool :hmm:

What do you need to remember the order for?
Oh, I don't, just saying I'm crazy :lalala:

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Well, if Captain Jack is in charge it will never happen, though I bet he'd like to keep to himself Doctor for a while :smirk: :-D
Maybe he would, but fortunately for the Doctor Jack is better that that )))

This thing definitely changes your views on the world, especially when you have to come to terms with it)))
I can't argue :) Since for me it was quite a long time ago, I don't remember distinctly whether my personal experience was that much of influence.

And I think, I like Moffat's desire to play :sunny:
Suum quique :cheek:

ut some people become stronger, some people find themselves in this journey and all (well, almost all :gigi: ) because of the Doctor
:yes: Just like Sarah Jane said to Rose in The School Reunion: Some things are worth having your heart broken for.

Perhaps, someone of the last ones of the oldschool :hmm:
I shall find out, which one. I'm curious ))) Although I wouldn't be able to do so soon, that's a pity: now that's for sure that I'm leaving for several weeks at the end of July.

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I can't argue Since for me it was quite a long time ago, I don't remember distinctly whether my personal experience was that much of influence.
I can't give any actual data either, but I think it does help you realize what people mean, when they say that the world is not black and white — truly realize. And perhaps any realization and experience consists of something like that, some truly important "bricks" :rotate:

Suum quique
Suum cuique :yes: :friend2: So, am I having a linguistic night here? Seems like it, though honestly my Latin is a bit better than my French, which is nonexistent :laugh:

Just like Sarah Jane said to Rose in The School Reunion: Some things are worth having your heart broken for.
Have you reached Sarah Jane (as a companion) yet? I saw a couple of episodes and I'd say I understand why people love her :yes:

Although I wouldn't be able to do so soon, that's a pity: now that's for sure that I'm leaving for several weeks at the end of July.
(( Well, any break from the Internet proves to be useful, so-- :rotate: But you'll be back?

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but I think it does help you realize what people mean, when they say that the world is not black and white — truly realize. And perhaps any realization and experience consists of something like that, some truly important "bricks" :rotate:
:yes: I'm inclined to agree with you. Although the importance of "bricks" involved depends on the circumstances; what is nonsense for one is a greatest lesson for another.

Suum cuique :yes: :friend2: So, am I having a linguistic night here?
Oh, sorry ( My French, which I use definitely much more often than my Latin, seems to be infiltrating the latter. Such a shame not looking it up in the dictionary first (

Have you reached Sarah Jane (as a companion) yet? I saw a couple of episodes and I'd say I understand why people love her :yes:
No, not yet. I had to stop watching DW during last two days as my future departure demands lots of things to be done beforehand, so I haven't seen even a half of the First Doctor era yet. Which Doctor's companion was Sarah Jane, by the way? Maybe I shall not watch the oldschool in the strict order of appearance but skip from one Doctor to another.

(( Well, any break from the Internet proves to be useful, so-- :rotate: But you'll be back?
So it does :) Surely, I will be back unless no unfortunate accidents occurs (but I proved so far that I can cross the road carefully, so I don't really consider a possibility of the kind )) ). In the middle of August - maybe several days earlier - I shall be back :)

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I'm inclined to agree with you. Although the importance of "bricks" involved depends on the circumstances; what is nonsense for one is a greatest lesson for another.
Sure))) It's all pretty individual, I'd say :rotate:

My French, which I use definitely much more often than my Latin
You know French?! :wow: Alright, you brought it on yourself :smirk: Is this phrase — Pourquoi non, ma belle? — right? From here, I'm more or less sure about other words, but this is too big for me E-erm, ple-e-e-ease? :shy: :shuffle2:

No, not yet. I had to stop watching DW during last two days as my future departure demands lots of things to be done beforehand,
So is this departure not from the Internet only, if you don't mind me asking? :) :shuffle2:

Which Doctor's companion was Sarah Jane, by the way? Maybe I shall not watch the oldschool in the strict order of appearance but skip from one Doctor to another.
She certainly was with the Third Doctor and with the Fourth (with whom I saw her), and perhaps that's all :hmm: Well, she's been around for quite a while :yes:

Surely, I will be back unless no unfortunate accidents occurs (but I proved so far that I can cross the road carefully, so I don't really consider a possibility of the kind )) ). In the middle of August - maybe several days earlier - I shall be back
Alright :sunny: I just thought, what if during this break you'll just get unused to the whole diary thing and decide not to come back :-D :-D :-D
Speaking about roads, I once realized that we are very lucky to come home alive considering the way we cross them :rotate:

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You know French?! :wow:
More or less ))) Worse than my English, but when there's a need I can be pretty fluent.

Is this phrase — Pourquoi non, ma belle? — right? From here, I'm more or less sure about other words, but this is too big for me E-erm, ple-e-e-ease? :shy: :shuffle2:
No, it's not :) It should be Pourquoi pas, ma belle? I checked the other words you used - most of them are correct, but I'd use Quoi? instead of Oui? - looks more natural and colloquial. But "oui" will also do.

So is this departure not from the Internet only, if you don't mind me asking? :) :shuffle2:
I don't :) One can name it a journey as I'll be leaving the city I'm living in.

She certainly was with the Third Doctor and with the Fourth (with whom I saw her), and perhaps that's all :hmm:
I saw the photos of the Third and the Fourth - such a change must've been shocking for her :cheek:

I just thought, what if during this break you'll just get unused to the whole diary thing and decide not to come back :-D :-D :-D
There's always a chance of such a thing - I'm just a light-headed human being, after all :) But I feel comfortable here so far and don't plan on cancelling "the whole diary thing" in the foreseen future.

Speaking about roads, I once realized that we are very lucky to come home alive considering the way we cross them :rotate:
Well, it's lucky, but I don't think of it often. There's a possibility of choking to death on a fishbone or slipping over spilt milk and breaking your neck, for instance; we are too fragile not to go mad from thinking about it all the time.

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No, it's not It should be Pourquoi pas, ma belle?
Corrected it, thanks :yes: And ma belle is fine? Thank God, the thought os cases and declension terrified me to death, it would've been a bit more than I've bargained for :rotate:

but I'd use Quoi? instead of Oui? - looks more natural and colloquial. But "oui" will also do.
I actually thought about it, but-- I wanted the question to sound a bit engaging, you know, with all the romantic atmosphere and so on, and "oui" seemed a bit more appropriate :crznope:

I saw the photos of the Third and the Fourth - such a change must've been shocking for her
I've seen the Episode with the regeneration and I can't say she was very shocked, a bit confused maybe :hmm: Well, she had a lot to do: there was the Doctor to care about and villains to fight, and then, I guess, she just got used to :D

There's always a chance of such a thing - I'm just a light-headed human being, after all But I feel comfortable here so far and don't plan on cancelling "the whole diary thing" in the foreseen future.
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Corrected it, thanks :yes:
My pleasure :) Good to remember a bit of French after days mostly filled with DW in English (not taking the phrase "allons-y" into account, that is).

And ma belle is fine? Thank God, the thought os cases and declension terrified me to death, it would've been a bit more than I've bargained for :rotate:
Yes, it's all right. Address me if you ever need a hand with French; don't hesitate, it wouldn't be a burden at all - it's pretty easy for me, this adorably illogical and elaborate concordance of gender and number in French.

I wanted the question to sound a bit engaging, you know, with all the romantic atmosphere and so on, and "oui" seemed a bit more appropriate :crznope:
Yes, "quoi" isn't precisely romantic ))) So "oui" be it.

Well, she had a lot to do: there was the Doctor to care about and villains to fight, and then, I guess, she just got used to :D
Well, think it's true - Rose who was freaked out by the regeneration at first had time and possibility to ponder on it, there were no villains around, and at first - before collapsing - the Doctor didn't seem to require any care :) And I can't judge by several quite brief appearences of Sarah Jane, but she seems to be more stable and reasonable than Rose.

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2011-07-02 в 01:20 

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not taking the phrase "allons-y" into account, that is).
:-D I guess, thought about French words too hard and "my mind just went «What the hell!»" (c) :-D :-D

Yes, it's all right. Address me if you ever need a hand with French; don't hesitate, it wouldn't be a burden at all - it's pretty easy for me, this adorably illogical and elaborate concordance of gender and number in French.
Take you at your word then :smirk: :sunny: Hm-m, it actually opens quite interesting perspectives if I'm ever going to write a prequel to that fic :lip:

And I can't judge by several quite brief appearences of Sarah Jane, but she seems to be more stable and reasonable than Rose.
:hmm: I think she is, Sarah Jane was a journalist and a serious one, so you could count on her being-- tougher in difficult situations))) And I don't know for sure but I got the feeling that the Third Doctor really and normally explained to her and the other companoion, the Brigadier, what was going to happen (they really understood the whole thing) — the Ninth Doctor wasn't that talkative :rotate: Perhaps that's because back then the audience had already seen two regenerations and there was no need to repeat the scenario of shock and disbelief (if that was the case with the previous companions, of course)))

2011-07-02 в 20:16 

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Take you at your word then :smirk: :sunny: Hm-m, it actually opens quite interesting perspectives if I'm ever going to write a prequel to that fic :lip:
I don't feel the least bit frightened or regretful )))

got the feeling that the Third Doctor really and normally explained to her and the other companoion, the Brigadier, what was going to happen (they really understood the whole thing) — the Ninth Doctor wasn't that talkative :rotate:
Well, yes, that makes sense. The Ninth Doctor was so much in pain and grief, that he couldn't really think of proper explanations, especially since there were any emergencies in the way. He wasn't the type to talk - rather the type to run away from the past, as far away as he could.

Wanted to ask you - did you decide to start watching Torchwood or still rejected the idea? It's just, I've read a fic - TW and DW crossover - a very good one, touching upon many fundamental issues of the Whoniverse, like trust, kindness, the right to decide for the others what's better for them, loneliness and its consequences either way, etc; what's bad about the fact, I've got no one to discuss it with. I thought, maybe, if you watched or were going to do so, you'd like to read the fic and discuss :)

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2011-07-03 в 19:21 

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I don't feel the least bit frightened or regretful )))
:sunny:

The Ninth Doctor was so much in pain and grief, that he couldn't really think of proper explanations, especially since there were any emergencies in the way. He wasn't the type to talk - rather the type to run away from the past, as far away as he could.
Perhaps the Third Doctor had a bit more time before his "death" whilst The Ninth was quite surprised (I guess, I need to watch this episode :rotate: ). I can't quite imagine the Doctor having tea with a companion in the TARDIS and going, "One day, my dear, I may feel a bit sick and then a golden light may be all over me — don't be alarmed then..." :-D Or may be I don't understand the Doctor that well :rotate:

... I thought, maybe, if you watched or were going to do so, you'd like to read the fic and discuss
Honestly, I'm not sure about Torchwood yet, but a good fic is always a love :yes: :heart: And if I get confused with the characters I don't know, I can always look them up, so if you recommend... :lip:

2011-07-03 в 20:46 

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I can't quite imagine the Doctor having tea with a companion in the TARDIS and going, "One day, my dear, I may feel a bit sick and then a golden light may be all over me — don't be alarmed then..." :-D
Me neither ))) Such things are not blurted out like that, out of the blue, and the Doctor actually doesn't like talking about it - it's still a death, this very version of him dies forever, doesn't matter that the new one will appear - the old one's dead.

And if I get confused with the characters I don't know, I can always look them up, so if you recommend... :lip:
Well, if you say so, than I shall recommend :sunny: Long Night's Journey Into Day by sahiya, the first fic of the series of four (maxi, two minis, maxi again) The Benefits of Being Human... in Cardiff. I like this one text better than the continuations :)
The fic is about alt!Ten, the one left behind with Rose in the parallel universe. It's an AU, so here he wasn't left behind, but was dropped out by the Doctor in Cardiff, where there is a Torchwood institute department run by Captain Jack. The beginning is the same day when The Journey's End finished; it begins with Ianto Jones sweeping what was left of the Dalek from the floor. This text somehow adds to that notion which appeared in our Doctor-devoted conversation - that the alt!Ten won't be able to really settle down as he's an eternal traveller in his mind and soul. We didn't think of other difficulties he'd have to face, though )
If you like, you can look up what happened to the characters Toshiko Sato and Owen Harper and who they were - it's not vital for understanding, but as it was a great tragedy, it would give more sense to what Jack, Ianto and Gwen feel about Owen and Toshiko. And you have to look up Gray, Captain Jack's brother - this is important :)

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2011-07-03 в 21:25 

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and the Doctor actually doesn't like talking about it - it's still a death, this very version of him dies forever, doesn't matter that the new one will appear - the old one's dead.
:yes: It's a difficult topic, plus he does like to keep things to himself. And the companions would get upset))

it begins with Ianto Jones sweeping what was left of the Dalek from the floor
Now I definitely want to read it :-D :-D :-D

If you like, you can look up what happened to the characters Toshiko Sato and Owen Harper and who they were - it's not vital for understanding, but as it was a great tragedy, it would give more sense to what Jack, Ianto and Gwen feel about Owen and Toshiko. And you have to look up Gray, Captain Jack's brother - this is important
OK, thanks for the tip ;-)

We didn't think of other difficulties he'd have to face, though )
M-hm, well, obviously someone else did :rotate: Thinking authors, thinking authors are/should be cool :-D :-D

Alright, I've no idea when I finish it as the word count is impressive, but we definitely can start tomorrow :yes:

2011-07-03 в 21:41 

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It's a difficult topic, plus he does like to keep things to himself.
:yes: He doesn't like them upset. He wants them to be happy, content, excited as long as possible, and life-and-death conversations don't really help.

Now I definitely want to read it :-D :-D :-D
It sounds funny, I know, but the fic is romance and angst and hurt/comfort, not actually humor )))

OK, thanks for the tip ;-)
Welcome :rotate:

well, obviously someone else did :rotate: Thinking authors, thinking authors are/should be cool :-D :-D
Yes, the author did that - proper actual thinking :) I love it in texts.

Alright, I've no idea when I finish it as the word count is impressive, but we definitely can start tomorrow :yes:
I'm not hurrying you in any way :) I've got the whole site whofic.com to entertain myself in meanwhile and a lot of other stuff :cheek: I will wait.

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2011-07-03 в 23:01 

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It sounds funny, I know, but the fic is romance and angst and hurt/comfort, not actually humor )))
I get that, but it sounds like a special kind of humour and gives one hopes for some crazy stuff :gigi:

Yes, the author did that - proper actual thinking I love it in texts.
Yeah, when you're actually respected as a reader :sunny:

I've got the whole site whofic.com to entertain myself in meanwhile and a lot of other stuff I will wait.
And I have X-Men:First Class One String Fest and an X-Men AU that eats my brain — it's actually chewing it, God help me :facepalm3: :mosk: But I'm still adequate, I guess :plush:

2011-07-04 в 00:53 

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I get that, but it sounds like a special kind of humour and gives one hopes for some crazy stuff :gigi:
No whofic without something truly crazy, I suppose. The canon universe presupposes that :cheek:

Yeah, when you're actually respected as a reader :sunny:
Yes, it's a pleasure to see the author gibing you a well-worked out version of reality, see the care and hard work - and they are for you as a reader.

And I have X-Men:First Class One String Fest and an X-Men AU that eats my brain — it's actually chewing it, God help me :facepalm3: :mosk:
Oh, those X-men. Last weeks it feels like I'm not in the SH and DW fandoms anymore, but in the X-Men one, assuming from my Favourite page. Must be really tough stuff )))

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2011-07-04 в 01:23 

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No whofic without something truly crazy, I suppose. The canon universe presupposes that
That still can stop no author from writing a downright angst I think :laugh:

Yes, it's a pleasure to see the author gibing you a well-worked out version of reality, see the care and hard work - and they are for you as a reader.
:yes:

Oh, those X-men. Last weeks it feels like I'm not in the SH and DW fandoms anymore, but in the X-Men one, assuming from my Favourite page. Must be really tough stuff )))
:lol: :lol: Yep, you're not in Kansas anymore :lol: :lol: Try it someday, it's great, this film is particularly, even surprisingly good, given the fact that it still is a film about superheroes :yes: :heart: And actually the presence of the main characters in your Favourite page made me believe in Mycroft/Jim pairing (of which I havent forgotten, no :shuffle2: :shy: :shame: ).

   

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